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Contents 1 Now who was it that said... 2 May I ask 3 Userboxes 4 SOTD July 25, 2008 5 Ooops.. 6 Uncategorized pages 7 {{DiscogsRelease}} 8 Prettying-Up the Help Pages 9 Special Thanks 10 !!! 11 Languages 12 Help. 13 Help:Page ranking/Albums 14 Compilations 15 Re: Help:Page ranking

Now who was it that said...

they might be able to write a java program for me (like Will did for sorting Other Songs lists into alphabetical order)..? Will has gone a bit quiet atm so am guessing he must be busy, studying..end of term etc. Well Ok anyone reading this, THIS is what I want..a jave program..script whatever it's called..(lol)..sorry bit stoned and been watching Karen Carpenter..sad..so sad..Anyway yes, a program that will pick up all the unlinked song on a page and list them. See I told you it was simple...didn't I?...No? Well I meant to. Ok. The first to achieve this simple task gets another award to clutter up their talk page!! And btw..guys, do you think Sean is adopting new policy for talk pages because of my extremely long (witty and interesting, informative, reasoned, etc. etc.) posts??? (hee hee)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 20:50, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

It depends on what you mean, but I could give it a shot. What do you mean by "unlinked song"?

1. Songs on an artist's/album's page that are not linked: # '''Song Title''' instead of # '''[[Artist:Song Title|Song Title]]'''
2. Links to songs that do not exist (red links). Such as # '''[[Artist:This Song Doesn't Exist Yet|This Song Doesn't Exist Yet]]'''
3. Or do you need a list of song pages that are not linked on the artist's page, such as a song that is linked on some random compilation disc, but because of that link, it was never added to the artist's page.

Number one I would have no problem with, the other two would require something more than a simple java program (I think). --WillMak050389 21:56, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Sorry Will..It's when I was doing Frank. It occurred to me that if I could list all the songs with pages that don't exist yet on the sub pages (i.e. red links), it could help me check the titles in the Other Songs list on his main artist page. Can you do that for me do you think? Reckon it could prove useful with other artists too. Thank you (I hope you are well)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 22:31, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

May I ask

you grace my talk page with a welcome message? lol I do not know if that is custom here but I have always liked to welcome new members on the Wikis I have or had run.

Anyway I made the album page, Zune had all of the album info... which surprises me seeing that I cannot find it anywhere else. I suppose the files must have had all the information in their properties.

Now I posted a similar question on the Metalocalypse Soundtrack page, but I would more so like to ask for other albums what to do if it has more than one cover? Like I have a few Beatles albums and a few Johnny Cash albums whose albums arts did not correspond when iTunes filled them in. PatPeter 13:48, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

With regards to Metalocalypse Soundtrack, I think we are going to have to have to leave this one off Dethklok's page. There are several reasons for this. Ok let me explain. Firstly, we tend not to detail bootleg albums, or those which aren't officially released and this is not an officially released album. Secondly, since all the songs (apart from three) are on the official album already on the artist page, there is no need for these same songs to be listed again, and certainly not under an unofficial release. This being so, what I would suggest you do is move the three songs which aren't on the official album (and which I have marked as "Unreleased") to a seperate section, call it "Unreleased Songs". and delete the rest.

With regards to the Beatles and Johnny Cash albums, I would be interested to know to which albums you are referring, since I believe all officially released albums are already detailed on these pages. As I say, we do not detail bootleg albums. Nor do we inflate artists' pages by listing all their compilation albums. With major artists such as the Beatles, there are many hundred compilation albums and as I'm sure you will agree, it would be silly to list them all. In any event, most compilations are simply a collection of songs from previously released albums. As such, if we have all the albums listed, it should not in fact be necessary to list any compilations! What you have to bear in mind is that our primary objective here at LyricWiki is not to provide complete discographies, but to provide lyrics. Also, that no matter how many times a song is listed, there is only the one song page.

I trust I have explained that well enough, but if you've got any further queries just leave me another message. Happy editing!  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 15:29, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Well the reason I would keep the Metalocalypse Soundtrack where it is is because those songs hold major differences with the DethAlbum. They are less metal in some circumstances, shorter, and with different lyrics in some cases.

I will have to get back to you about the Beatles because I have to go to Michigan for a family reunion. I can assure you though that these albums were not compilations. They had the same exact name and songs as the albums they were listed as. Just let me get back to you on that, talk to you in a few days. -PatPeter 11:22, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Ok. We'll talk more then. Enjoy your trip!  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 11:39, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Remind me to continue this discussion, but we have more important matters to discuss. -PatPeter 12:50, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Userboxes

I was trying to make as many changes in the time I had, I spent a couple hours editing, but I had to get to sleep as I cannot get off of my sleep pattern the week fore college starts. If I had had the time I would have written up the pages of policy that dictate why said userboxes went into those categories.

Each userbox will have two categories, one for its namespace, and one for the type of userbox it is (Beliefs and Causes, Sports, Funny, w/e). Category:Userboxes will contain all the subcategories for userboxes. Category:Templatespace userboxes will contain all subpages of Template:Userboxes and Category:Userspace userboxes will contain userboxes such as those in my userspace. Category:Userbox templates will pend deletion when I finish taking out all the userboxes from there.

Overall, categories should have the simplest and shortest titles, for easier editing, linking, etc. -PatPeter 12:50, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

As for the Admin userboxes, I was trying to fix that and figured I would do it tomorrow, I still cannot remember what went wrong, the includeonly tags should have worked... Also I am not yet done re-categorizing all templatespace userboxes into their appropriate categories. -PatPeter 12:58, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I don't think we have enough userboxes yet to warrant have categories for kinds of userboxes. Perhaps someday, but not now. Remember, we're not an exact clone of Wikipedia. --Aquatiki - T - E 13:03, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Oh, no. The policies I have erected will only exist in the case of an influx of userboxes, for now we only need the two categories, as they suffice. -PatPeter 13:30, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Yeah ... about that. Policies are not exactly erected by individuals around here. Even administrators should show some hesitation when enacting rules that effect everyone. I think that unlike Wikipedia, if you can't find a policy page already for something here, people are gonna do their own thing, no matter how pretty a system you setup. Now don't get me wrong, I appreciate all you organizational neatness, I just think you heading towards stepping on toes with the massive renaming of all userbox templates like you did. By all means, create order, but please discuss and get some consensus from other before you go changing existing orders. --Aquatiki - T - E 13:39, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I wasn't trying to perse erect a policy by myself, I just use that word a lot, sorry. I figured I did the renaming in the same thought as LyricWiki:Colons to Slashes, same concept with the subpages and whatnot. Also, I did not know where to go to say "Hey guys, mind if I apply LW:CtS to the userboxes?". -PatPeter 13:53, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

That's OK: I appreciate all your hard work and energy. 'Round here, we do a ridiculous amount of talking on the Community Portal talk page; it's basically the hub for everything. Thanks for all you do. --Aquatiki - T - E 13:59, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Knowing where to ask questions about sweeping changes is always a bit of a challenge. I tend to just default to the Community Portal if I can't think of a more appropriate place. That seems to work well :)

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 14:03, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Well thank you both for telling me. :) -PatPeter 14:18, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for coming back to me on that PatPeter and yes the Metalocalypse songs you listed still need to be dealt with in the way I have suggested above.

I guess all I want to know now is are the userboxes going to be put back into the one place so they can easily be found by those that might want to use them? I appreciate that you probably spent much time on doing all of this, but I've got to say that the system for userboxes that was already in place was far simpler, served it's purpose well and certainly worked much better for me personally than what has resulted from the changes you have made. Since I believe that this is likely to be the case for most of our users (most of whom wouldn't be in the least concerned about "template namespaces" and "categories", only on finding the userboxes), I certainly wouldn't advise you to change the existing policy pages until a decision on keeping this, or reverting these changes is made. However, with regards to your comment about renaming these pages in the same thought as LyricWiki:Colons to Slashes, so far as I can see that particular page only discusses current policy. It doesn't actually enact it ;)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 17:15, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I have to do more research into that Metalocalypse soundtrack, because as I said the songs exist yet have large differences than that of the Dethalbum. Let me work on that later (I am posting before going to sleep).

It depends what you mean by one place. All the userboxes are in Category:Userboxes, along with belonging under Template:Userboxes. Trust me you do not want to combine templacespace and userspace templates, categories start to look horrible. LyricWiki being one of the other large wikis in the internet it is only a matter of time before users start using more userboxes. The subcategory just acts as a safety net. And when I referenced LW:CtS I did not try to reference it as a policy, but rather of the idea of placing all userboxes in one location for easier reference. I have finished placing all userboxes into Category:Templatespace userboxes which will act as the "main category" for most userboxes. -PatPeter 02:02, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

SOTD July 25, 2008

Hi Redxx! I'm just here to tell you that your nomination of Gerard McMann:Cry Little Sister (Theme From The Lost Boys) has won Song of the Day for July 25, 2008!
Thanks for nominating a song and for contributing to LyricWiki!
-ÜberBot 02:54, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Ooops..

Oops..Would be grateful if someone could check out links on this...I was trying to be helpful (correcting spelling..lol) Academy Award Winners and not sure, but feel may have got something not quite right in the doing..as don't think the category itself should be a sub category.. _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 07:05, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Uncategorized pages

You just missed it by a little bit! About 40 more, and you would have gotten done with B's and gone almost straight into D's...I shall continue the work.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 21:14, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

No, I ain't givin up ;) but I swear if I see one more Böhse Onkelz I'll be ill!  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 21:49, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

UPDATE - believe I'm up to the D's now.. but we got a hell of a way to go yet. Can't this be done by a bot?  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 09:02, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

I had talked to teknomunk to do a bot edit, but that really never panned out. We'll just have to keep doing what we are doing...

I've been kind of a LW deadbeat lately, as I am moving in a couple of weeks. I haven't had much time for LW with everything else going on. Bear with me.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 13:22, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Don't you worry, I'll plug on. Hope the move goes smoothly..just don't overdo it!  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 13:46, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks. BTW, do you know of the magic words? {{SUBST:SONG}}, {{SUBST:ARTIST}}, {{SUBST:SONGFLETTER}} make things easy and modular coupled with clippies.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 15:04, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

No, but I do now :-) Thanks!! (Have you got any more magic tricks like that up your sleeve? Because that's well handy!!)
And I've been "plugging away at the Uncategorized pages, but you will note that I've skipped a few D's, namely those attributed to Disney and Dreamgirls. My reasons are such that these are not straightforward. I don't know where to go on the Disney songs, as the song pages list two artists. With regards to Dreamgirls, although an artist page has been created, Dreamgirls, (like Phantom Of The Opera), is not actually an artist, but a theatrical performance. (Phantom Of The Opera is listed [in part] appropriately on Andrew Lloyd Webber's page).  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 07:44, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

Update : We're up to I now... _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 22:52, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

UPDATE: DONE :-)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 18:42, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

{{DiscogsRelease}}

Available for your immediate use is the template DiscogsRelease. I opted for a non integrated, separate template, like LrcDB. Field 1 is the discogs release number, and the second is an optional name (otherwise it is {{ALBUM}}). Sorry it took so long, by the way. Shouldn't have taken me that long... Enjoy!
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 02:50, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Thank you :-)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 21:19, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Any chance to adjust this template for artists? Example: discogs link for Isis links here where the actual artist is this. Firehawk 00:52, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

Prettying-Up the Help Pages

I've done one section on the Help:Contents/Editing/Formatting/Songs page. Have any ideas for further beautifying? (I tried to change the background color, but it wasn't cooperating for me for some reason. *sigh* Also, I'd rather just have a plain border, but I could get that right, either. *double-sigh* My "skillz" are not so good today.) I'll be off until later tonight -    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   17:27, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Lol...I was just looking at it. Much better..the only thing I will say is that your eyes must be much beter than mine because I can't really see the different colours (only the blue for Instrumental). (BTW Change anything you see in history that I have recently done, I won't be in the least offended.) Also have you seen this Help_talk:Page_ranking/Songs yet? (you can delete my post if you want) And also check out Coldplay song talk page too  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 17:34, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Hrrrm. You can't see that the green portions are green? Really? That's a problem. You use Firefox, correct? Hrrrrm. I was trying to figure out a good color to use. Red was automatically out, and I figured purple was too close to blue, but perhaps green isn't good either. I don't know what other color to use, though. Perhaps I'll brighten the green a bit.

Yes, I use Firefox. Maybe it's my monitor, but honestly I can't really see the difference. You could leave it for now. See if anyone else says the same thing.

Yeah, I'm going to have to basically use green. The other colors are either too light or used.

UPDATE: Just tell users to look at Help pages during the day, as it looks better in daylight ;)  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 07:34, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Your recent changes to Help:Contents/Editing/Formatting/Songs are good ones. (As I recall...I looked over them when you made them.) I may update as I go through, reword things, etc. I don't know yet. I'm still working on the general "look" right now.

When I edit info, help pages, etc. I do it not because I believe I have a natural flair for these things, but to fulfill a need. Usually because I have had difficulty locating the information myself and therefore I know others would also be experiencing similar problems trying to find it. In these instances I apply a kind of 'something's better than nothing' kind of attitude. As such, if someone comes along and changes it for something better written, I've still achieved what I set out to do ;)

Talk:Coldplay:Viva La Vida is fine. I don't see why there can't/shouldn't be more than one Certifier. I haven't technically certified it, though, so I'm trying to get GoEar to cooperate and let me listen to more than the first few seconds so that I can.

I have listened to it. Several times. I've got it in fact. (Redo Cert when you have). The reason I did it was because I am sure Aqua had certified it as Gold, but when I visited page to revert edit, the Cert had disappeared. Then I thought to try and emphasise that these ARE the correct lyrics I'd put all 3 of us on there.

Okay, I finally got it. Certified!

Re:Your recent note to me - As I think I've stated before, what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger...but sometimes additional strength is overrated! Party/Rock on, however. Just make sure you edit responsibly!  :-]    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   22:19, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Hee hee..edit responsibly..yes teach ;). I only had the one...Cognac. I'm partied out..I'm on Orangeade now..and mint humbugs hee hee.  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 22:49, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Actually, I have to commend you on your overall positive spirit. I have had a bit of a cold the past couple of days, and just that made me a bit terse and less cheerful.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   23:26, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

Special Thanks

Gee thanks Aqua!!! To be perfectly honest I really don't know how many I did. KingNee started it, as you know, but he couldn't complete it because of moving. All I know is that I kept right on going! I'll try to keep an eye on this category from now on..Mmmmm..Can you hear my brain ticking over? lol  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 06:42, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

!!!

Race you to the next edit!    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   12:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Haa Haa.. I saw the word "conflict" and I thought I was at war..lol  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 13:23, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Languages

Heyaa. Because of a question on Category talk:Language I went to see how many other non-listed language categories there are... what a mess! Some of them even contain quite a few songs. So I started making an overview on Category talk:Language/Move list. Once we agree on which should be categorized where, I think actually making the changes would be perfect work for a bot. And remembering your offer just the other day on my talk page... well :) Just letting you know that if your Sandbot is up for it, it may have some digging to do shortly :). And of course to attract your attention to the list, because there are still a lot of items for which I am not sure where to put them in. --Mischko 06:01, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

Agreed. SandBot had already started correcting some of these in fact before receiving your message so I think we'll continue on, do as many as we can from your Move list, and if I hit on any problems I'll come back to you.  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 08:35, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

Help.

Talk:Led Zeppelin:Whole Lotta Love. See what kind of mess mushy-mouthed Brit singers cause? If you have the album, it probably has the lyrics. My other Zep albums do, but LZII has a plain replacement insert that some kid drew on. (I bought it for a buck about 20 years ago...what are you going to do?) It does sound a little like air, but then he'd be saying "You need cool air, baby, I'm not fool air", because it sounds like that, too. "School air?" Hrmmm. Plant needs to freakin' enunciate! Grrrrr. :-]    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   21:34, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

Haa Haa. I had always been convinced he sings "coolin". I corrected third and fourth lines though as they were definitely wrong (confirmed by 6 times 9 too). But that wasn't quite enough for me so I stirred things up a bit on talk page by throwing another possibility into the ring (Yes, I was in devilish mode tonight) I enjoyed researching this though. I should've been dealing with those blinkin' Batch Moves of course, but I thought I'd cop out and ask Aqua if there was an easier way to do it (hee hee). It was then I got your message, so it's all your fault they aren't done :P. And if Mischko comes looking for me to see why I haven't completed my set task, I'll blame you for that too. ;) Well, for xx odd years I have always thought it was "coolin"...Anyway, thanks..it was an interesting journey ;) "Kool Aid Man" indeed...rfl  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 23:16, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

P.S. I could tell you a story about my vinyls but I won't. All I will say is that since a week ago, there is a possibility that they could now be on the premises here...somewhere. If I do ever find them, I'll check these lyrics ;)

It's COOLIN', COOLIN', COOLIN'!!!!!!! Out of the dozens upon dozens of lyrics sites on the web not a single one has "cool air"! *sigh*

Kool-Aid? Holy #@$%!! *sigh*

fine, I LMAOed. but don't tell anyone.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   23:58, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

That must have hurt while sitting up. I hope you got it back on? --Mischko 03:39, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

I am an automated message. Redxx ain't here. * Redxx does a runner before MIschko sees her —The preceding unsigned comment was added by someone who don't want to be found (talk) .

I'd certainly give our friend Mr Cool Air 10/10 for determination User Contributions  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 12:46, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

Help:Page ranking/Albums

I updated this page. Check it over for me. I already noticed one grammatical error. I'll be back in about an hour or so to see what you think.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   21:02, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

Thank you. I may have corrected a few typos when you get to read this.

1. The only thing that you may want to reconsider is that we steam right on in (under the section Templates) talking about "Watcher" and "Cert", when the instructions telling users what to do (e.g. add the Watcher template to the page, when to add the Cert template, etc.) are actually provided on the template itself. It might also confuse some as to why these templates aren't already on the page. Make 'em read the template is what I say ;) You have included this info further down anyway (under Star Types) and I think info should remain there.
2. You could also put something about using the talk page as a talk page (in case users think they can't), TOC/Show and hide but probably unnecessary.
3. Someone definitely needs to provide the code on the Watcher Template page, like has been done on the Cert Template page, so users can copy and paste it: {{Watcher|<<User name>>}} otherwise how can they participate in scheme? If this was to be done, you would probably not need to include anything about user's name, for I personally feel it is obvious how this should be completed. Users are not being asked to sign the Watcher Template in any event, but to enter their name, so you could omit that bit if you wanted to. The instructions for completing Cert template, including to sign with ~~~~~, are given on the Cert Template page and I think those are clear enough for anyone who is unsure (although I don't know about Mr. PageRankingUser - rfl).
4. Credits - I would change the word "must" to "needs". I would also pre-empt queries about this by including a sentence taking into account that a lot of songs just detail "Composer" or "Written by" and don't detail these individuals separately. Due to the increasing popularity of mp3's, not everyone will have access to album covers to confirm this either.

OK Off to bed now...4.37 am..tut tut..  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 23:33, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

1. I suppose there is a little redundancy, but I'd rather be a bit redundant & repetitive for those that don't read the entire page or who won't go to the template page. (I tend to think of the instructions on the template page as the detailed instruction set, but not necessarily for all users. The Help pages should be written with info for new users or users new to that aspect of LyricWiki in mind.)

2. Done.

3. Yeah, you would think that it would be obvious, but....  :-]

4. Okay, I'll clarify.

   Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   00:36, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

1. You will note that I have amended a few things today. Some needed doing, some didn't. It just seemed easier to do it that way than explain what I think. Please feel free to change anything I have done in whatever way.
2. Help:Page ranking/Artists - I basically copied what you already done on the other pages and substituted the word Artist, but I thought it would help save you time ;) I didn't give too much thought to it however, so it's by no means perfect. (I also wasn't too sure about the Violet ranking for Artists.)
3. Mmmm.. look at this Talk:Frank Sinatra:Swing Easy! (1954) I know you have clearly instructed: "Portions shown in GREEN should be changed to correctly reflect the state of that parameter", but in view of the graphic problem, I'm thinking maybe it mighht be best to set the example template out exactly as it appears on fresh page..? That would not only help users who want to start participating in the scheme (in copying/pasting), but it would also have the added bonus of accurately reflecting the incompleted parameters, since they would simply remain unchanged and therefore as "unknown".
4. {{Song}} also needs updating now too (to reflect the star parameter). I wasn't aware of the change, so thanks for including that.

 _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 16:01, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

I like the changes! (I haven't looked at the Artist page yet.) (Song? Ooops! My copy-and-paste is showing!) I think with regards to the Green worded template, that it should be possible to have another "Example" template group next to the "Blank/Green" template group. I'm going offline now, but I'll be back on later tonight (early morning to you!)    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   16:58, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm not sure I'm really understanding you, but I don't think we really need two templates on each help page. I'm more inclined to think we should provide simply the intitial (Green) template on each Help page (like I've done atm on Help:Page ranking/Artists) because when you think about it, this is all the user actually needs. Thereafter this all follows through by itself. By which I mean instructions are clearly given on each template as progress is made as to what exactly to do next, e.g. apply Watcher template now, apply Cert now, etc.

I happened to notice that you had omitted the | after the word "Info" at the top of both the Song Template and Album Template examples. I don't know if this is deliberate, or what difference it makes not being there, but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Finally, I hope you don't mind but I asked Aqua to cast his beady eye over what we've written. I did this primarily because I knew there were serious flaws in what I had written on the Artist Help Page. Anyway, he corrected this for me and he also helped by doing this..Help:Page_ranking :-).

Ok well I'm going to plug on with languages (SandBot gets a bit restless this time of night if I don't let her loose).  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 19:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

The problem with putting "unknown" in the example is that it doesn't connect word-wise to the header that explains what should go there. By putting "STATUS", then there is a connection with the "Status" header below that explains the choices that can be put in its place. (In fact, the words in GREEN can be made into links to those sections, if one was interested.... :-]) That's the same as for the other parameter choices, which the editors will have to replace as well. I try to error-proof things as much as I can, and I'm sure someone at some time will copy/paste the templates with those green parts left whole, but if a user is "with it" enough to replace "ALLSONGS STATUS", then they should be able to replace "STATUS". At least, we can all hope. *sigh* (my favorite vandal came back tonight after being away for a week. i'm a bit down on hope for signs of intelligence in the universe at the moment. ;-] )    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   23:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Hee hee Ok I guess you've just got more faith than me ;) _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 23:32, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Compilations

We had a discussion about compilations and the fact that some end up being redundant, have a look at these Pink Floyd deletion requests: [1], [2], [3], [4]. I think they should stay. cheers EchoSierra 10:45, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Agreed. These compilations should remain. They were created by User:WillMak050389, one of our fellow Admin, who has worked extensively on this page.  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 12:19, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Re: Help:Page ranking

Hey, sometimes we all need a little "human attention", if you know what I mean.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   11:35, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Hee hee..Now that really did make me "laugh out loud". And yes, I know it was Aqua's original wording, and I know he wrote it like that because he had been talking about your old pal Ub when he originally strung those sentences together, I just think we had both had enough by then so we didn't spot it straight away. Bet we would've got a few funny comments from users about our choice of words eventually though :-) _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 11:45, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

"Robots are people too!" --Aquatiki - T - E 11:47, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

Hee hee Marvin  _♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪^Talk 12:28, 30 August 2008 (EDT)